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    WW CXXVI: Asgard / Norse spculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:00 pm

    This game sucks and whoever is running it sucks.

    I mean this game is great and whoever is running this game is great.


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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:02 pm

    This game has the best beginning I've ever seen. I 4 way tie, nickering, arguing, inyourfaces, a mysterious vote result change and 2/3 good characters either killed or exposed.

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    WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:28 pm

    Here you go. I'm bummed about dubb dying, he had a pretty fun role, as you might expect from Odin.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:28 pm

    sweet!

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:29 pm

    This game sucks and whoever is running it sucks.

    I mean this game is great and whoever is running this game is great.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:29 pm

    This
    game has the best beginning I've ever seen. I 4 way tie, nickering,
    arguing, inyourfaces, a mysterious vote result change and 2/3 good
    characters either killed or exposed.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:30 pm

    I remember feeling that way when Baloo and Bagheera were on the block day one.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:36 pm

    So, any speculations at this point?

    By the way, nice job being all over me last game. I am an embarrassingly bad wolf.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:39 pm

    I don't want to even think if last game or the one before or the one before or the one...

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:45 pm

    I'll reveal one humorous (to me) thing that has happened so far behind the scenes: three items were passed randomly from the first day.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:47 pm

    tell dubb he can come in btw. he's ascared to without permission

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:50 pm

    As for this game there's nothing really worth speculating. Lotsa arguing which is good. Smile But arguing doesn't really mean anything. Nor does quietness necessarily, but wolves do tend to be quieter than normal day 1 unless they are trying to seem less obvious.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:11 am

    Chubby's awesome Smile

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Dubb93 on Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:15 am

    So any chance I passed anything on to Bug before I died?

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:26 am

    Unfortunately he was not one of the three.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Dubb93 on Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:19 am

    Admin wrote:Unfortunately he was not one of the three.

    Too bad. I'm sure the wolves have a super powerful role in play like the one I had.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:07 pm

    What the hell is this "Danny reveal" barkeep is talking about? I've not seen Danny reveal anything. People keep talking about multiple people claiming Duke or claiming someone else is duke but from what I can see that's all projection/misunderstanding/speculation. Did Danny reveal?

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    Post by Admin on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:13 pm

    Crimson Fox wrote:What the hell is this "Danny reveal" barkeep is talking about? I've not seen Danny reveal anything. People keep talking about multiple people claiming Duke or claiming someone else is duke but from what I can see that's all projection/misunderstanding/speculation. Did Danny reveal?

    Check Post 514

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:18 pm

    oh yeah. HI DUBB! Smile

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    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:48 pm

    okay that's a big miss. Awesome all three good characters are exposed (or dead Smile ) on day 2

    Something about danny's reveal is weird. It's just phrased really weirdly. He's saying a LOT with a LOT of powers. powers that sound made up. When really he doesn't have to reveal. Why come forward with that? If he's going to reveal why not just say I'm the Bodyguard and that's it.
    Making up other jazz at this point in the game doesn't make sense and it would explain the no-lynch thing. Although I would think there were a boxtext reference to Danny being chosen and not chosen. Since Balder was revealed in boxtext I would think THor would be too. Although I'm not for certain why Balder was revealed without him doing anything. Guess it's just preference. Indeed it gets complicated with lotsa roles especially when the roles clash.

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    Post by Admin on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:52 pm

    Crimson Fox wrote:Although I'm not for certain why Balder was revealed without him doing anything. Guess it's just preference. Indeed it gets complicated with lotsa roles especially when the roles clash.

    Actually, it was involuntary. He wasn't able to be lynched, but if he ended up being "lynched", it would result in him being revealed.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:58 pm

    Aha! Okay I get it now. With Thor getting out of the lynch that made it confusing. Gee that kinda sucks when I look at it like that.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:08 pm

    I don't see a wolf Danny false revealing. I also don't see why Danny NOT getting lynched would make him MORE suspicious. Sure wolves can save wolves, but villagers get double votes. People get weird abilities. Especiailally in a game where absolutely no roles are known. Anyone that thinks this makes him more guilty has not been following things lately. Then again there are a couple people back from yesteryear.

    If Danny IS a wolf then he was either fishing for Thor (which I doubt Thor would fall for this and Danny would know that so I don't see Danny doing things this way) or there is something even bigger and more complicated that Danny was trying to throw off the scent. LIke he's saying hey look at me! Think about THIS so that you don't think about the other things I don't want you to think about!

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Dubb93 on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:13 pm

    Crimson Fox wrote:oh yeah. HI DUBB! Smile

    Hi, FYI without knowing the wolves I would have stayed with my plan of UTR scans with the hopes of revealing a COT(and one that is still alive when I am able to reveal). Up next would probably be Zinto but it would be day 2 in a row where I questioned why I didn't scan Heinz.

    Had also planned on putting more heat on myself as the days went on since I was the duke also, but I just didn't want to be that jackass seer who died on D1.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Dubb93 on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:15 pm

    I would leave Danny alone at this point, but to be honest I'm not real caught up with the thread at this point though.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:19 pm

    I actually hadn't thought about that strategy when I made up the roles, but sometime during D1 I thought that might've been a good way to go, since worst-case you won't actually get 'lynched', though you obviously aren't living long after that. But as you pointed out, that's double-edged if you end up 'lynched' D1.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Dubb93 on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:23 pm

    Admin wrote:I actually hadn't thought about that strategy when I made up the roles, but sometime during D1 I thought that might've been a good way to go, since worst-case you won't actually get 'lynched', though you obviously aren't living long after that. But as you pointed out, that's double-edged if you end up 'lynched' D1.

    Yup hence my reluctance to employ the strategy prior to day 2. It just ended up biting me I guess.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:50 pm

    Other than dubb dying, I've been reasonably pleased with how the game has begun. A mysterious no lynch, rumors of strange powers, items whizzing around, a Thor reveal...fun stuff.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:58 pm

    And Chubby fighting with everyone! Don't forget that!

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    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:59 pm

    ah yes dubb dying. That speaks VOLUMES to me!

    That tells me that Racer, barkeep, or jeheinz is a wolf.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:31 pm

    I've been keeping a running log of 'Amusing game notes'. Some aren't related to behind the scenes info, but 5 of the 7 are.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:51 pm

    I smell villager villager here. Smile hehehehehe

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:27 pm

    I don't think this really implicates anybody now that danny is wolf. At least not any more than they haven't already made themselves look guilty.

    Did THomkal just admit to being Thor?

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:39 pm

    get danny and bhlloy in here

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:53 pm

    Never in my extrapolations did I figure we'd make it to day 3 with only having roled players eliminated.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:11 pm

    how many are they?

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:49 am

    I believe 11 in total. Autumn was right on in the thread today saying I was likely a bit frustrated about it, but that's the way it goes. I started a list of game laments as well, which is unfortunately as long as my amusement list.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by bhlloy on Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:07 pm

    What's up guys. Definitely the craziest couple of days I remember in a long time.

    Who thinks Lathum is a wolf? Coming in here and seeing JAG say that all 3 items got passed randomly makes me think there is absolutely no evidence that he's a wolf so I'm going to say villager, but who knows.

    Also is Chubby the villager of the year, or is there a twist in there somewhere. To me it looks like he's player a joker like role, where he's just trying to cause as much chaos as possible. Any secret win conditions in this one for anyone?

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    Post by Admin on Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:13 pm

    When I said 3 got passed randomly, I meant 3 as a subset of the total # of items.

    No secret win conditions in this one. I do enjoy stuff like that though, neutral roles and such. I didn't see a great way to do that in the context of the setting though (admittedly I'm not that creative).

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:30 pm

    This might be an entertaining day with how some stuff with items happened last night.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:31 pm

    And bloody hell, another day and another lack of vanilla villager dying...

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:43 pm

    bhlloy, is it my imagination or are you always killed on day 2?

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    Post by bhlloy on Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:46 am

    I think it's at least 3 or 4 games in a row dying before day 4, for certain. I had a couple games where I made it to the end with a major role (1 BG and 1 seer?) and since then I haven't gotten close to surviving for any decent amount of time.

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    Post by Admin on Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:25 am

    bhlloy wrote:I think it's at least 3 or 4 games in a row dying before day 4, for certain. I had a couple games where I made it to the end with a major role (1 BG and 1 seer?) and since then I haven't gotten close to surviving for any decent amount of time.

    Sorry bhlloy, for one thing your role was a late addition to the rules that I'm uncertain I should have added (though I liked it for flavor),, for two, when I saw the roles go out, I never expected Danny would end up getting lynched as soon as he did. I figured there was a much better chance your role would essentially be meaningless with him either getting passed Gleipnir (which would have, among other things, removed his brutal ability) or you getting lynched / NK'ed.

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    Post by bhlloy on Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:59 pm

    Don't worry about it, wasn't complaining at all. I think the role was pretty cool, could have gone either way like you said

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:16 pm

    Any thoughts on the remaining wolves?

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by bhlloy on Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:36 pm

    I really don't have any great insight at this point. I still have these crazy visions of Chubby and Autumn as wolves playing the greatest double cross game ever. I think Telle is likely going to show up wolf, and one of Zinto/Mauboy. But I haven't been paying too much attention since I was killed.

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    Post by CrimsonFox on Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:34 am

    bhlloy wrote:I think it's at least 3 or 4 games in a row dying before day 4, for certain. I had a couple games where I made it to the end with a major role (1 BG and 1 seer?) and since then I haven't gotten close to surviving for any decent amount of time.

    Well you always seem to be lynched out of nowhere without a really good reason. Like "Well I definitely think bhlooy is guilty then for sure" is the typical response with the vote. Smile Never really makes sense either.

    Something else. The night kill selections have been...um...unusual. Very original I must say. dubb and j23. That just doesn't really add up. I wonder if the wolves scanned j23 somehow because I've never seen him be nightkilled. Just lynched. Smile
    Well, I DID see him huinted once. Smile

    I still stand by my statement that I think Barkeep/Racer/jeHeinz is a wolf. One of them that is.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by Admin on Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:38 am

    Quite a lot of discussion regarding the fake / real Mjolnir.

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    Re: WW CXXVI Wolves in Asgard speculation thread

    Post by CrimsonFox on Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:54 pm

    These wolves really suck at killing people. Wink

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